Rebuttal to Answering Islam

Category: 60 cubits tall Adam a.s.

Response to Muhammad and 90 feet tall Adam

Critic:

Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, “Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring.” So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, “As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi” (i.e. Peace and Allah’s Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam’s salutation the expression, ‘Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,’ Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam’s creation. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543)

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “The first group of people who will enter Paradise, will be glittering like the full moon and those who will follow them, will glitter like the most brilliant star in the sky. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their centers. Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in statute), sixty cubits tall.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 544)

<!–Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam in his complete shape and form (directly),
sixty cubits (about 30 meters) in height. When He created him, He said (to him),
"Go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they
will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the
greeting of your offspring." Adam (went and) said, 'As-Salamu alaikum
(Peace be upon you).' They replied, 'AsSalamu-'Alaika wa Rahmatullah
(Peace and Allah's Mercy be on you) So they increased 'Wa Rahmatullah'
The Prophet added 'So whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the
shape and form of Adam. Since then the creation of Adam's
(offspring) (i.e. stature of human beings is being diminished
continuously) to the present time."
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 74, Number 246)

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/074.sbt.html#008.074.246

Actually, the above is a MIStranslation, it says:

“Allaah created Adam in His _image_ (meaning life, knowledge, hearing, seeing, etc.,
not like the Kuffar claim!) 60 cubits (approx. 30 meters) in height.

The word “Image” also removed here:
http://www.agnatemoslem.com/data/hadiths/hadsahb/had55.htmlThis hadith has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira through another
chain of transmitters that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The (members of the) first group which would get into Paradise will have
their faces as bright as stars in the sky. They would neither pass water,
nor void excrement, nor will they suffer from catarrh, nor will they spit,
and their combs would be made of gold, and their sweat will be musk,
the fuel of their brazier will be aloes, and their wives will be large-eyed
maidens and their form would be alike as one single person after the form
of their father (Adam) sixty cubits tall.
(Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6795)

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Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The first group of my Ummah to get into Paradise would be like a full moon in the night. Then those who would be next to them; they would be like the most significantly glittering stars in regard to brightness, then after them (others) in ranks. They would neither void excrement, nor pass water, nor suffer from catarrh, nor would they spit. And their combs would be made of gold, and the fuel of their braziers would be aloes and their sweat would be musk and their form would be the form of one single person according to the length of their father sixty cubits tall. This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Ibn Abi Shaiba with a slight variation of wording. (Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6796, cf. No. 6795)

Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His own image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of” Mercy of Allah”. So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day. (Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6809; cf. Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 74, Number 246)

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The above quoted sayings of Muhammad contain two statements that can be evaluated scientifically:

  1. Adam was 90 feet tall.
  2. The height of human beings has continuously diminished since then.

Conclusion: Muhammad was wrong on both counts.

The obvious next question is this: Did Muhammad invent these claims himself, or did he simply repeat myths that were circulating at his time, perhaps embellishing them somewhat? This question will be discussed later near the end of this paper.

Response:

Cambridge University experts say humans are past their peak and that modern-day  people are 10 per cent smaller and shorter than their hunter-gatherer ancestors.

Scientists blame agriculture, with restricted diets and urbanisation compromising health and leading to the spread of disease

Scientists blame agriculture, with restricted diets and urbanisation compromising health and leading to the spread of disease

And if that’s not depressing enough, our brains are also smaller.
The findings reverse perceived wisdom that humans have grown taller and larger, a belief which has grown from data on more recent physical development.

The earliest, from Ethiopia, date back 200,000 years, and were larger and ‘more robust’ than their  modern-day counterparts, said  Dr Marta Lahr, an expert in human evolution.

Fossils found in Israeli caves and dating from 120,000 to 100,000 years ago, reveal a people who were tall and muscular, a pattern that  continued uninterrupted until  relatively recent times.

An average person 10,000 years ago weighed between 12st 8lb and 13st 6lb. Today, the average is between 11st and 12st 8lb. Dr Lahr, who last week presented her findings to the Royal Society, Britain’s most prestigious scientific body, described the changes as ‘striking’.

Bigger brain: Six different views of a 160,000-year-old human skull of an adult male from Ethiopia

Bigger brain: Six different views of a 160,000-year-old human skull of an adult male from Ethiopia

‘We can see that humans have continually evolved but in body size it is not until the last 10,000 years that they have changed substantially, so the question is why this should have happened.’

The timing points to the switch from a hunter-gatherer lifestyle to agriculture, which began 9,000 years ago. While farming would have made food plentiful, focussing on a smaller number of foodstuffs could have caused vitamin and mineral deficiencies that stunted growth.

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In China, early farmers relied on cereals such as buckwheat, rice and maize, all of which lack niacin, a B vitamin vital for growth.
However, the rise of agriculture does not explain why brains are also shrinking.

The male brain of 20,000 years ago measured 1,500 cubic centimetres. Modern man’s brain averages just 1,350 cubic cm – a decrease equivalent to the size of a tennis ball. The female brain has shrunk by about the same proportion.

It doesn’t mean we are less intelligent – rather we have learnt to make the best use of our resources.

Dr Lahr said: ‘Over evolutionary time there would have been huge energy savings in making the brain smaller but more efficient – as we see today with computer processors.’

Robert Foley, a Cambridge University professor of human evolution, said: ‘Becoming human, in an evolutionary sense, is a continuous and gradual process. Our species, rather than being a fixed entity, is more like a piece of putty, changing shape and dimensions all the time.’

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