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Response to lofty claims about Iram

Citic:

Muslims claim that the Qur’an is vindicated by excavations in Ebla (not Elba! – which is the island where Napoleon was banned after being deposed from power) and parade this as one great confirmation of the historical accuracy of the Qur’an. I expected an article or at least some substantial paragraph about this city in the referenced article, but what does the article actually say?

“Ebla: Splendor Or An Unknown Empire” by Howard La Fay (pp. 730-759), National Geographic, December 1978, page 735-736:

    The names of cities thought to have been founded much later, such as Beirut and Byblos, leap from the tablets. Damascus and Gaza are mentioned, as well as two of the Biblical cities of the plain, Sodom and Gomorrah. Also included is Iram, an obscure city referred to in Sura 89 of the Koran.

No details about this city other than its existence (and it is not even clear if that is the Qur’anic ‘Iram – there are several cities named Ur for example, one near Ebla in Syria and one in Chaldea). Not even the location of ‘Iram, and certainly nothing about its “famous pillars”. Also it is in this article not stated that Ebla traded with ‘Iram. In another paragraph of above article it is stated that tablets have been found containing a list of cities Ebla was trading with, but Gary Miller is combining two different statements into one that have nothing to do with each other which shows sloppy reporting.

Response:

The name Irum would be sufficient for anyone who is neutral towards Muslims and Islam.Otherwise the whole map would be insufficient for you to believe that the people of lofty pillars i.e. Irum have really existed and so the Quran is truly revealed by Allah in which all the details are 100%correctly mentioned.

The Name Irum:

“Ebla: Splendor Or An Unknown Empire” by Howard La Fay (pp. 730-759), National Geographic, December 1978, page 735-736:

The names of cities thought to have been founded much later, such as Beirut and Byblos, leap from the tablets. Damascus and Gaza are mentioned, as well as two of the Biblical cities of the plain, Sodom and Gomorrah. Also included is Iram, an obscure city referred to in Sura 89 of the Koran.

Irum is included in the names of cities which had done business with the people of Ebla.If the name of this city was founded after sometime,it does not mean that there was no trading between the people of Ebla and Irum.

The destruction of some of the trading cities:

On the contrary,Ebla had traded with those states which were destroyed later on.It further enhances the fact that Irum had traded with the people of Ebla.According to Wikipedia,

Ebla continued to be a center of trade during the second kingdom, evidenced by the surrounding cities that appeared during its period and were destroyed along with the city.[note 19][64] Trade continued to be Ebla’s main economic activity during the third kingdom; archaeological finds show there was an extensive exchange with Egypt and coastal Syrian cities such as Byblos.

The city of pillars,burried under sand:

According to Wikipedia,

In the early 1990s a team lead by amateur archaeologist and film maker Nicholas Clapp and adventurer Ranulph Fiennes, archaeologist Juris Zarins and lawyer George Hedges announced that they had found Ubar.[7] Initially, NASA satellite photographs guided the team to a well known, and previously identified water hole at Shisr in Dhofar province.[8] However, excavations of the site uncovered a large octagonal fort with 10 foot high walls and 8 tall towers on the corners.

See the picture below and read the details provided by NASA.

Ubar

Original Caption Released with Image:

This pair of images from space shows a portion of the southern Empty Quarter of the Arabian Peninsula in the country of Oman. On the left is a radar image of the region around the site of the fabled Lost City of Ubar, discovered in 1992 with the aid of remote sensing data. On the right is an enhanced optical image taken by the shuttle astronauts. Ubar existed from about 2800 BC to about 300 AD. and was a remote desert outpost where caravans were assembled for the transport of frankincense across the desert. The actual site of the fortress of the Lost City of Ubar, currently under excavation, is too small to show in either image. However, tracks leading to the site, and surrounding tracks, show as prominent, but diffuse, reddish streaks in the radar image. Although used in modern times, field investigations show many of these tracks were in use in ancient times as well. Mapping of these tracks on regional remote sensing images provided by the Landsat satellite was a key to recognizing the site as Ubar. The prominent magenta colored area is a region of large sand dunes. The green areas are limestone rocks, which form a rocky desert floor. A major wadi, or dry stream bed, runs across the scene and appears as a white line. The radar images, and ongoing field investigations, will help shed light on an early civilization about which little in known. The radar image was taken by the Spaceborne Imaging Radar C/X-Band Synthetic Aperture Radar (SIR-C/X-SAR) and is centered at 18 degrees North latitude and 53 degrees East longitude. The image covers an area about 50 kilometers by 100 kilometers (31 miles by 62 miles). The colors in the image are assigned to different frequencies and polarizations of the radar as follows: red is L-band, horizontally transmitted, horizontally received; blue is C-band horizontally transmitted, horizontally received; green is L-band horizontally transmitted, vertically received. SIR-C/X-SAR, a joint mission of the German, Italian and the United States space agencies, is part of NASA’s Mission to Planet Earth.

Image Credit:

      NASA/JPL

Image Addition Date:

    1998-04-28

Critic:

I didn’t see anything about the lofty pillars in “National Geographic” article, did you? It is one of those rumors that get bigger and bigger the longer they are told.

The Qur’anic claim is about the splendor of the lofty pillars of this city. For this, the above referenced article in the National Geographic does not give any indication.

Finally, the issue is allegedly so amazing, because there is absolutely no reference to the city of Iram outside the Qur’an. Since the author of the Qur’an could not have taken it from any other source, it must be divine information. Now, that archaeology confirms the existence, this is taken as evidence that that the author of the Qur’an truly must have been God.

Response:

National Geographic mentions about the watchtowers and the walls of the city,which was buried in the sand.

National geographic has mentioned the name Irum too,as quoted above.

NASA has provided the image of the city of towers,burried in sand.

Critic:

This passage, found in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, shows that the Jews of Medina spoke about God’s destruction of ‘Ad and Iram long before they or the Arab tribes in Medina had heard of Muhammad. Their use of this story is clear evidence that it was a well-known story in Medina, accepted as true by both the Jews and also the pagan Arabs, since otherwise a reference to it would not have any value in warning those Arab tribes against raiding the Jews.

Muhammad could have learned about it from the people in Medina, but even more likely, it was well-known throughout Arabia at that time. In any case, one cannot legitimately claim that the mention of ‘Ad and Iram in the Qur’an is in any way amazing or a miracle that proves the alleged divine authorship of the Qur’an.

The author of the Qur’an merely used the same story as the Jews did, and even for the same purpose, i.e. to warn the unbelievers of the judgment of God. It is one more instance where Muhammad simply incorporated the legends of the ancients in his alleged divine revelation, cf. The Sources of the Qur’an.

Response:

If this was the case,then there would be no differences at all,in any case.

The story of Prophet Jesus a.s. would be the same as mentioned by the Christians,the story and the role of Haman would be the same,the most popular wrong statements about the embryology and cosmology would be found in Quran too.

The truth is that there are many differences,with the presence of only such description which is proven to be scientifically correct or there are many historical evidences supporting the truth of Quran such as the inscription about Haman,found in Egypt or the city of towers,now discovered by NASA.

Response to Haman Hoax:Islamic awareness

Critic:

What does “hmn” stand for? The hieroglyph , transliterated “hmn”, is the name of an Egyptian deity.8 It is not the name of a human being, but the name of a god. That is the reason why Muslims were unable to find “hmn” listed among Egyptian personal names. Human beings are usually not given the names of gods. No Muslim would dare to name his son “Allah”.

Response:

A god justifying to someone else?

The dialogues do not suit any god or goddess.

Gods do not have full names as -h suggests.

Critic:

After listing the name on the inscription and noting that it is masculine, he writes “Vgl.” which means “compare”, i.e. he says one should compare this name with two other names. ….

Translated into English, this means:

Whenever I consider a name to be a full name [i.e. the full form of a name], I have tried to provide a German translation. … Abbreviated names [i.e. shortened forms of names] and terms of endearment are left without translation.

This is another piece of evidence that Ranke did not consider this hieroglyphic name to be the full (and official) form of a name,

but an abbreviated name. He gave a translation for entries 24 and 26, but did not give a translation for entry No. 25.

Response:

As you have mentioned earlier,he is not sure himself about -h so he has asked to compare.

Remember,anything for which you have no knowledge,does not mean that it must be the name of god or deity..

Any name which is hidden or unclear,does not mean it is the name or attribute of God.

Critic:

If we drop the last letter which is doubtful, the name can be rendered as “hemen” or “haman” depending upon the vowel which is inserted to ensure an effective pronunciation of the hieroglyph.

Or it can be rendered “human”, “hemun”, “homin”, “himen”, and who says there can only be two vowels and the word has to begin and end on a consonant? What about “himuna”, “himeni”, “humeni”, “hominu” or “hamuni”? Add to that the admission of Islamic Awareness that we cannot even be sure about the consonants!

Response:

For the word,it is certain that it is a name.

For name,the letters hmn are certain.

It is also certain that the name is masculine.

The following dialogues make it confirm that hmn was a human being,not any god.

Left: “The offering which the King has given to Osiris, the Formost of the Westerners, the Lord of Eternity, the Ruler of eternal Duration, so may he give anything that has come forth from his table, and (also) the pleasant north-wind, and a good burial after old age, to the ka of the overseer of the stone-masons of Amûn, Hamen-ha, justified.”

Right: “The offering which the King has given to the Western Desert and to Amauni, the Lady of the Sky, so may they give food and nourishment, all kinds of offerings, all kinds of good and pure things, to the ka of the overseer of the stone-masons of Amûn, Hamen-ha, justified.”

Below: Relief depicting a seated couple (i.e., Hamen-ha and his wife) who are being attended by a man. Above them, the name of the lady: “His wife, the lady of the house Nefer-nûb, justified,” and the name of the attendant: “Ka-pu-hótep.”

Critic:

The IA-team continues:

The hieroglyph in our case is hmn-h(?) with a doubtful last letter. If we drop the last letter which is doubtful, …

There is, however, no doubt about this: Repeating false claims does not make them become true.

Response:

hmn is the name,there is no doubt.

-h could be a slip or any adjective,any attribute or something else which is used with a name hmn.

In any case,I do not find any single clue suggesting that -h means that hmn is the name of any god or goddess.

It is simply your frustration which is making you to claim so strongly that hmn-h ? is only and only for some god or deity.

Critic:

As we have shown, the name Haman is definitely not found in the hieroglyphic inscription that the Muslims appeal to, and (as far as I know) it is not found in any other hieroglyphs either.Moreover, I agree, the author of the Qur’an did certainly not get it from hieroglyphs. However, there can be no doubt about the fact that the Qur’an incorporates material from various fictional accounts (apocryphal books, legends, etc.).

Response:

Incorporating with such contradictions?Not at all.

The story of haman in Esther and the haman in Quran,both are really different.The cases are different,the era is different and the role is different too.

If Quran was really borrowing ideas and stories,then there would be no contradiction at all.

Critic:

Should we believe this Muslim conspiracy and corruption theory simply because Mordecai and Moses both start with “Mo”? That would not be a reason anybody would be willing to accept. But Islamic Awareness does not even offer a reason as silly as that. They don’t offer any reason at all. Their claim is issued without even the least shred of evidence to support it. Who, when, how? Most importantly, why should anyone have corrupted the allegedly original version that is only found in the Qur’an? Is there any evidence that a story even remotely similar to that of the Qur’an was known before the Book of Esther was written? If Haman had been part of the story of Moses, i.e. part of the Torah, why would the Jews remove him from that story and transfer him into a different context in Persia? There exists neither evidence for this nor a motivation for doing so.

Response:

It is not about the starting letter only.

It is the first letter of the name matching.

It is the last letter of the name matching.

It is more than 50% of the letters of the name matching.

It is the role matching.

It is the era matching.

Critic:

Isn’t it amazing how well the story of the Qur’an agrees with this hoax and deliberate fraud which we have observed in the presentation of Bucaille and Islamic Awareness? Could it perhaps be that both accounts received their inspiration ultimately from the same source?

Now, if the Qur’an had explicitly stated the name of the Pharaoh of Moses – a detail that is not mentioned in the Bible, the Talmud or any of the Jewish legends – that would have been impressive. But transferring Haman from the Persian court to the court of Pharaoh in the Qur’an is not a miracle. That is easily explained by confusion (see the Introduction), and certainly not a reason to stand in awe before the Qur’an

Response:

The imprints are a reality.

The word hmn is a truth.

The dates are recorded.

The only confusion is set by you alone due to your frustration, that hmn could only be a deity,and nothing else.

The Haman from Persia could be someone else,but the Haman with Pharaoh is a reality with numerous proofs.

Response to Islam and the magical world of Genies and Dragon

Critic:

The Quran says that there are certain creatures called jinn whom Allah created from fire:

And the jinn did We create aforetime of essential fire. S. 15:27 Pickthall

And He created Jinns from fire free of smoke: S. 55:15 Y. Ali

Some people seem to be of the opinion that jinn are immaterial spirit beings. Given the fact that fire is a chemical reaction between different elements, and that there is no fire without matter being present, such a conclusion is not substantiated. At best, the above verses are inconclusive as to the nature of the jinn. Since all fire needs matter they may, on the contrary, be implying that jinns were created with material bodies of some kind.

Other statements from the Quran and the hadith literature support this view since there are references which indicate that they do have physicality and actually have body parts. For instance, the following text warns against Satan, who is a jinn according to the Quran, and his children:

And when We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam; they made obeisance but Iblis (did it not). He was of the jinn, so he transgressed the commandment of his Lord. What! would you then take him and HIS OFFSPRING for friends rather than Me, and they are your enemies? Evil is (this) change for the unjust. S. 18:50 Shakir

And (remember) when We said unto the angels: Fall prostrate before Adam, and they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He was of the jinn, so he rebelled against his Lord’s command. Will ye choose him and HIS SEED for your protecting friends instead of Me, when they are an enemy unto you? Calamitous is the exchange for evil-doers. Pickthall

Response:

Jinn are also the creation of Allah and they are invisible just as the micro organisms.

You can not deny their existence just because you can not see them.

The existence of jinn:

1.Einstein’s law of conversation of Energy points towards the existence of Jinn

2.Scientific methods for the paranormal investigation:

Paranormal investigation is the process of investigating locations that are reported to be haunted by ghosts. Typically, a ghost hunting team will attempt to collect evidence that they see as supportive of paranormal activity.

Ghost hunters or the paranormal investigators often utilize a variety of electronic equipment, such as the following types: the EMF meter; digital thermometer; handheld and static digital video cameras, such as thermographic (or infrared) and night vision; digital audio recorder; and computer.

The equipment used by the investigating team consists of,

  • Still photography and video: using digital, night vision, infrared, and even disposable cameras.
  • EMF meter: to detect fluctuations in electromagnetic fields.
  • Tablet PC: to record data, audio, video and even environmental fluctuations such as electromagnetic fields.
  • Ambient temperature measurement: using thermographic cameras, thermal imaging cameras, infrared thermometers, and other infrared temperature sensors. It should be noted that all of these methods only measure surface temperature and not ambient temperature.[20]
  • Digital and analog audio recording: to capture any unexplained noises and electronic voice phenomena (EVPs)
  • Compass: some ghost hunters used compass to determine the location of paranormal spot similar like EMFs.
  • Geiger counter: to measure fluctuations in radiation.
  • Ion meters: to detect an excess of negative ions.
  • Infrared and/or ultrasonic motion sensors: to detect possible anomalous movement within a given area, or to assist in creating a controlled environment where any human movement is detected.
  • Air quality monitoring equipment: to assess the levels of gases such as carbon monoxide, which are thought to contribute to reports of paranormal activity.
  • Infrasound monitoring equipment: to assess the level of sound vibrations.
  • Dowsing rods: usually constructed of brass and bent into an L-shape.

Scientific methods for the paranormal investigation and the positive results by the instruments also prove the existence of some paranormal entities.

The Presence of Jinn can not be regarded as unscientific in this century.

Critic:

One noted commentator Ibn Kathir used this text to prove that jinn can actually procreate:

We know that the jinn procreate for Allah the Almighty asked: <<Will you then take him (Iblis) and his offspring as protectors and helpers?>> (Stories of the Prophets by Ibn Kathir, translated by Sheikh Muhammad Mustafa Geme’ah, Office of the Grand Imam, Sheikh Al-Ahzar, edited by Aelfwine Acelas Mischler [El-Nour For Publishing and Distribution and Translation Est.; 38 Al-Madina Al-Monawara St., Toryl Al-Gadida], p. xi)

Response:

Unauthentic source.

Critic:

Procreation is a physical act requiring sexual intimacy and therefore presupposes that jinn have certain physical anatomy allowing them to propagate their race through intercourse. In ligth of this it should not come as a surprise to learn that there are male and female devils or jinns:

Narrated Zayd ibn Arqam:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: These privies are frequented by the jinns and devils. So when anyone amongst you goes there, he should say: “I seek refuge in Allah from male and female devils.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 6)

In fact, the Quran further teaches that some jinn will go to hell or enter paradise, and that those that go to the garden will be wedded to heavenly maidens:

And surely, We have created many of the jinns and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, they have eyes wherewith they see not, and they have ears wherewith they hear not (the truth). They are like cattle, nay even more astray; those! They are the heedless ones. S. 7:179 Hilali-Khan

If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, “I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together.” S. 32:13 Y. Ali

Then when the heaven is rent asunder, and it becomes rosy or red like red-oil, or red hide. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? So on that Day no question will be asked of man or jinn as to his sin, (because they have already been known from their faces either white or black). Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? The Mujrimun (polytheists, criminals, sinners, etc.) will be known by their marks (black faces), and they will be seized by their forelocks and their feet. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? This is Hell which the Mujrimun (polytheists, criminals, sinners, etc.) denied. They will go between it (Hell) and the boiling hot water! Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? But for him who [the true believer of Islamic Monotheism who performs all the duties ordained by Allah and His Messenger Muhammad SAW, and keeps away (abstain) from all kinds of sin and evil deeds prohibited in Islam and] fears the standing before his Lord, there will be two Gardens (i.e. in Paradise). Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? With spreading branches; Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? In them (both) will be two springs flowing (free). Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? In them (both) will be every kind of fruit in pairs. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? Reclining upon the couches lined with silk brocade, and the fruits of the two Gardens will be near at hand. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? Wherein both will be those (maidens) restraining their glances upon their husbands, whom no man or jinn yatmithhunna (has opened their hymens with sexual intercourse) before them. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? (In beauty) they are like rubies and coral. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? Is there any reward for good other than good? Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? And besides these two, there are two other Gardens (i.e. in Paradise). Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? Dark green (in colour). Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? In them (both) will be two springs gushing forth water. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? In them (both) will be fruits, and date- palms and pomegranates. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny? Therein (gardens) will be fair (wives) good and beautiful; S. 55:37-70 Hilali-Khan

Response:

It is 100% logical to believe that any living creature is created in pairs.I hope you must know about the bacteria too.

Ibn Kathir writes:

<Qasirat At-Tarf> chaste females, wives restraining their glances, desiring none except their husbands, seeing them as the most beautiful men in Paradise. This was said by Ibn ‘Abbas, Qatadah, ‘Ata’ Al-Khurasani and Ibn Zayd. It was reported that one of these wives will say to her husband, “By Allah! I neither see anything in Paradise more handsome than you nor more beloved to me than you. So praise be to Allah Who made you for me and made me for you.” Allah said, …

<whom never deflowered a human before nor Jinn> meaning they are delightful virgins of comparable age who never had sexual intercourse with anyone, whether from mankind or Jinns, before their husbands. This is also a proof that the believers among the Jinns will enter Paradise. Artat bin Al-Mundhir said, “Damrah bin Habib was asked if the Jinns will enter Paradise and he said, ‘Yes, and they will get married. The Jinns will have Jinn women and the humans will have female humans.’” (Source; bold and underline emphasis ours)

Response:

Unauthentic source.

Critic:

Moreover, the Quran implies that jinn can die:

(Allah) will say: “Enter you in the company of nations who passed away before you, of men and jinns, into the Fire.” Every time a new nation enters, it curses its sister nation (that went before), until they will be gathered all together in the Fire. The last of them will say to the first of them: “Our Lord! These misled us, so give them a double torment of the Fire.” He will say: “For each one there is double (torment), but you know not.” S. 7:38 Hilali-Khan

And We have assigned them (devils) intimate companions (in this world), who have made fair-seeming to them, what was before them (evil deeds which they were doing in the present worldly life and disbelief in the Reckoning and the Resurrection, etc.) and what was behind them (denial of the matters in the coming life of the Hereafter as regards punishment or reward, etc.). And the Word (i.e. the torment) is justified against them as it was justified against those who were among the previous generations of jinns and men that had passed away before them. Indeed they (all) were the losers. S. 41:25 Hilali-Khan

The ahadith explicitly say that jinn do indeed die:

Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:
The Prophet used to say, “I seek refuge (with YOU) by Your ‘Izzat, None has the right to be worshipped but You Who does not die while the Jinns and the human beings die.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 480)

Ibn ‘Abbas reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) used to say:” O Allah, it is unto Thee that I surrender myself. I affirm my faith in Thee and repose my trust in Thee and turn to Thee in repentance and with Thy help fought my adversaries. O Allah, I seek refuge in Thee with Thine Power; there is no god but Thou, lest Thou leadest me astray. Thou art ever-living that dieth not, while the Jinn and mankind die.” (Sahih Muslim, Book 035, Number 6561)

Response:

Every living organism dies.What is so surprising for you?

Critic:

The Quran even says that Allah pelts the jinn with shooting stars and meteors!

And indeed, We have put the big stars in the heaven and We beautified it for the beholders. And We have guarded it (near heaven) from every outcast Shaitan (devil). Except him (devil) that gains hearing by stealing, he is pursued by a clear flaming fire. S. 15:16-18 Hilali-Khan

We have adorned the lower heaven with the adornment of the stars and to preserve against every rebel Satan; they listen not to the High Council, for they are pelted from every side, S. 37:6-8 Arberry

And indeed We have adorned the nearest heaven with lamps, and We have made such lamps (as) missiles to drive away the Shayatin (devils), and have prepared for them the torment of the blazing Fire. S. 67:5 Hilali-Khan

And (the Jinn who had listened to the Qur’an said): We had sought the heaven but had found it filled with strong warders and meteors. And we used to sit on places (high) therein to listen. But he who listeneth now findeth a flame in wait for him; S. 72:8-9 Pickthall – cf. 55:33-35

After commenting on the composition of meteors and meteorites, Dr. William F. Campbell rightly asks:

The difficulty here is obviously not with the science and composition of meteors and meteorites. The difficulty is how to understand what the Qur’an can be talking about. The word “rajm”, usually translated as “cursed” in modern translations, comes from the verb meaning “to stone”, and Hamidullah translates 67:5 which is quoted above with the words,

“and We have designed them (the lamps) as a means of stoning the devils.” (translation from French mine)

What shall we understand when it says that God throws meteors, whether made of carbon dioxide or iron-nickel, at non-material devils who steal a hearing at the heavenly council? And what are we to understand when the meteors come in showers and are traveling in parallel paths? Are we to understand that the devils all lined up in rows at the same moment? These are not easy questions. (Campbell, The Qur’an and the Bible in the light of history and science, 3. SHOOTING STARS – METEORS AND METEORITES; online edition)

Response:

The shooting stars are mentioned as stones showered upon those Jinn who try to go beyond their upper limits.

Any entity composed of gases which could be detected by infrared sensors,EMF detectors and geiger counters,could logically create disturbance in the space which is not empty, but consists of a hard vacuum containing a low density of particles: predominantly a plasma of hydrogen and helium, as well as electromagnetic radiation, magnetic fields, neutrinos, dust and cosmic rays.

Believe me,it is totally Logical.

Shooting stars are not stars and they are never mentioned in any verse as the stars.

The shooting stars are the meteor showers,fireballs,bolides or superbolides.Learn more.

Bolide is translated as missile or to flash.

And indeed We have already adorned the lowest heaven with lamps and made them outcast (meteorites) for Ash-Shayatin  and We have readied for them the torment of the Blaze.(67:5)

And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing (41:12)

The lowest heaven is mentioned as a source of protection,not the stars.

Lowest heaven.It is true because the meteors typically occur in mesosphere.

A meteor or “shooting star” is the passage of a meteoroid or micrometeoroid into the Earth’s atmosphere, incandescent from air friction and shedding glowing material in its wake sufficiently to create a visible streak of light.[20][10] Meteors typically occur in the mesosphere at altitudes between 76 to 100 km (47 to 62 mi).[21] The root word meteor comes from the Greek meteōros, meaning “high in the air.

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Critic:

The hadith literature provides further support that jinn have physicality of some kind. For example, stars and meteors are not the only material objects that can harm the jinn since water can as well!

Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 516)

Moreover, the hadiths claim that Satan can urinate and pass wind (fart):

Narrated ‘Abdullah:
A person was mentioned before the Prophet (p.b.u.h) and he was told that he had kept on sleeping till morning and had not got up for the prayer. The Prophet said, “Satan urinated in his ears.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 21, Number 245)

Narrated ‘Abdullah:
It was mentioned before the Prophet that there was a man who slept the night till morning (after sunrise). The Prophet said, “He is a man in whose ears (or ear) Satan had urinated.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 492)

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “When the call for prayer is made, Satan takes to his heels PASSING WIND so that he may not hear the Adhan. And when the call is finished he comes back, and when the Iqama is pronounced, Satan again takes to his heels, and when the Iqama is finished he comes back again and tries to interfere with the person and his thoughts and say, “Remember this and that (which he has not thought of before the prayer)”, till the praying person forgets how much he has prayed. If anyone of you does not remember whether he has offered three or four Rakat then he should perform two prostrations of Sahu while sitting. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 22, Number 323)

Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “When the call for the prayer is pronounced, Satan takes to his heels, PASSING WIND WITH NOISE. When the call for the prayer is finished, he comes back. And when the Iqama is pronounced, he again takes to his heels, and after its completion, he returns again to interfere between the (praying) person and his heart, saying to him. ‘Remember this or that thing.’ till the person forgets whether he has offered three or four Rakat: so if one forgets whether he has prayed three or four Rak’at, he should perform two prostrations of Sahu (i.e. forgetfulness).” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 505)

The hadiths even tell us what diet the jinns follow:

Narrated Abu Huraira:
That once he was in the company of the Prophet carrying a water pot for his ablution and for cleaning his private parts. While he was following him carrying it (i.e. the pot), the Prophet said, “Who is this?” He said, “I am Abu Huraira.” The Prophet said, “Bring me stones in order to clean my private parts, and do not bring any bones or animal dung.” Abu Huraira went on narrating: So I brought some stones, carrying them in the corner of my robe till I put them by his side and went away. When he finished, I walked with him and asked, “What about the bone and the animal dung?” He said, “They are of the food of Jinns. The delegate of Jinns of (the city of) Nasibin came to me–and how nice those Jinns were–and asked me for the remains of the human food. I invoked Allah for them that they would never pass by a bone or animal dung but find food on them.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 200)

Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas’ud:
A deputation of the jinn came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said: O Muhammad, forbid your community to clean themselves with a bone or dung or charcoal, for in them Allah has provided sustenance for us. So the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) forbade them to do so. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0039)

Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas’ud
Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: Don’t cleanse yourself with dung or with bones for that is the food of your brothers from amongst the Jinn.
Transmitted by Tirmidhi, Nasa’i with this exception that he did not make mention of: The Food of your brothers from amongst the jinn. (Tirmidhi Hadith, Number 129; ALIM CD-ROM Version)

Hence, jinn feast on dung and bones!

It is rather evident from the foregoing that Muhammad actually believed that Satan and the jinn are physical beings, or have material bodies of some kind. He clearly didn’t believe that they were immaterial spirits.

Response:

Every living organism needs food for energy,every living organism excretes too.

So whatever Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.w. told us about the jinn,clearly suggests that they are also living organisms.


Punishment of the Grave

According to the hadiths Muhammad believed that unbelievers are tormented in their graves. Believers, however, are given respite:

Narrated Masruq:
‘Aisha said that a Jewess came to her and mentioned the punishment in the grave, saying to her, “May Allah protect you from the punishment of the grave.” ‘Aisha then asked Allah’s Apostle about the punishment of the grave. He said, “Yes, (there is) punishment in the grave.” ‘Aisha added, “After that I never saw Allah’s Apostle but seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment in the grave in every prayer he prayed.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 454)

Narrated Al-Bara’ bin ‘Azib:
The Prophet (p.b.u.h) said, “When a faithful believer is made to sit in his grave, then (the angels) come to him and he testifies that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle. And that corresponds to Allah’s statement: Allah will keep firm those who believe with the word that stands firm . . . (14.27). (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 450)

Narrated Shu’ba:
Same as above and added, “Allah will keep firm those who believe …” (14.27) was revealed concerning the punishment of the grave. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 451)

Narrated Asma’ bint Abi Bakr:
Allah’s Apostle once stood up delivering a sermon and mentioned the trial which people will face in the grave. When he mentioned that, the Muslims started shouting loudly. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 455)

We can more fully appreciate why these Muslims started shouting when we see the kinds of punishment awaiting the dead in their graves:

Narrated Anas:
The Prophet said, “When a human being is laid in his grave and his companions return and he even hears their footsteps, two angels come to him and make him sit and ask him: What did you use to say about this man, Muhammad? He will say: I testify that he is Allah’s slave and His Apostle. Then it will be said to him, Look at your place in the Hell-Fire. Allah has given you a place in Paradise instead of it.” The Prophet added, “The dead person will see both his places. But a non-believer or a hypocrite will say to the angels, I do not know, but I used to say what the people used to say! It will be said to him, Neither did you know nor did you take the guidance (by reciting the Quran). Then he will be hit with an iron hammer between his two ears, and he will cry and that cry will be heard by whatever approaches him except human beings and jinns.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 422)

Narrated AbuHurayrah
Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: When the dead body (of a Muslim) is buried in the grave there appear before him two Angels, both having black faces and blue eyes. One is called Munkar and the other is called Nakir and they say: Say what you have to say about this person and he will say: He is the servant of Allah and His Messenger. I bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is His Messenger and they both will say: We already knew that you would say this. Then his grave will be expanded to the extent of 4900 square cubic feet and it will be illuminated, then it will be said to him: Go to sleep and he will say: I intend to go to my family in order to inform them and they would say: Go to sleep like the sleep of a newly wedded bride whom no one awakens but one who is dearest to her amongst his family members. Only Allah would resurrect him from his resting place. If he (the dead) were a hypocrite he will say: I heard people making a statement (pertaining to the oneness of Allah and the apostlehood of Muhammad) and I said the same but I do not know. And they would say: We already knew that you would say this and the earth will be told to press him and it will press him till his ribs are clasped together and he will not be relieved of the torment till Allah resurrects him from his resting-place.
Transmitted by Tirmidhi. (Tirmidhi Hadith, Number 44– ALIM CD-ROM Version)

Response:

The punishment of grave is also logical.

Death is mentioned to be somewhat like sleep.

During the sleep,one experiences the terror or nightmares,and it is not only the psychology but the physiology of the person is also effected.Read here.

The person in a dream could experience the pain with changes in his physiology as well(without any actual physical impact seen), so what is illogical for a dying person?

Critic:

If being hit with hammers weren’t bad enough Muhammad also taught that literal dragons would torture unbelievers!

Narrated AbuSa’id
Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: There dominate NINETY-NINE DRAGONS over the unbeliever in the grave. They (constantly) bite him and sting him till there comes the hour (of resurrection). (These dragons are so poisonous) that if one of them exhales on the Earth, no verdure will ever grow upon it.
Reported by Darimi, Tirmidhi transmitted something similar but he said seventy instead of ninety-nine. (Tirmidhi Hadith, Number 46– ALIM CD-ROM Version)

Narrated AbuSa’id
When the Prophet (peace be upon him) went out to the prayer and saw the people looking as if they were grinning he said, “If you were to keep much in remembrance death which is the cutter-off of pleasures, it would distract you from what I see. Keep much in remembrance death which is the cutter-off of pleasure, for a day does not come to the grave without its saying, ‘I am the house of exile, I am the house of solitude, I am the house of dust, I am the house of worms.’ When a believer dies the grave says to him, ‘Welcome and greeting; you are indeed the dearest to me of those who walk upon me. I have been given charge of you today and you have come to me and you will see how I shall treat you.’ It will then expand for him as far as the eye can see and a door to Paradise will be opened for him. But when the profligate or infidel is buried the grave says to him, ‘No welcome and no greeting to you; you are the most hateful to me of those who walk upon me. I have been given charge of you today and you have come to me and you will see how I shall treat you.’ AbuSa’id told that Allah’s Messenger indicated it by interlacing his fingers. Then he said, “SEVENTY DRAGONS will be put in charge of him of such a nature that if one of them were to breathe on the earth it would produce no crops as long as the world lasted, and they will bite and scratch him till he is brought to the reckoning.” He also reported Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) as saying. “The grave is one of the gardens of Paradise, or one of the pits of Hell.”
Tirmidhi transmitted it. (Tirmidhi Hadith, Number 1429– ALIM CD-ROM Version)

Response:

Here I love to challenge you to show me any single real hadees.

Mentioning the reference of Tirmizi,does not eman that it is actually present there.

Again,I am challenging you to show any single such hadees from the actual Book.

Everyone could check here with the key words ninety nine dragons or even ninety nine to search any such hadees,but actually there is no such hadees.

Critic:

It is one thing to depict spiritual realities in a materialistic or physical manner or to use the metaphor of mythical creatures to describe spiritual entities like Satan:

“In that day the LORD with his hard and great and strong sword will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan the twisting serpent, and he will slay the dragon that is in the sea.” Isaiah 27:1

“And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world — he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.” Revelation 12:9

“Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain. And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years were ended. After that he must be loosed for a little while.” Revelation 20:1-3

Or even of wicked rulers like Pharaoh:

“speak, and say, Thus says the Lord GOD: ‘Behold, I am against you, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lies in the midst of his streams, that says, “My Nile is my own; I made it.”’” Ezekiel 29:3

It is quite another thing to speak of dragons literally coming to torture disembodied souls while in their graves!

Response:

It is even worse to say that your scriptures speak about dragons,while there is not a single hadees in real.

Prejudice makes a man liar and blind.It is true.

Response to “Noah’s ark or Steamboat?”

Remember Every boat is not a sign.

It was a boat made under the surveillance of Allah.

And construct the ship under Our observation and Our inspiration and do not address Me concerning those who have wronged; indeed, they are [to be] drowned.”(11:37)

The hints of being a steamboat or really an extraordinary boat are very clear.

[So it was], until when Our command came and the oven overflowed, We said, “Load upon the ship of each [creature] two mates and your family, except those about whom the word has preceded, and [include] whoever has believed.” But none had believed with him, except a few.(11:40)

Surely, as soon as the water (s) overflowed, We carried you in the running ship.(69:11)

And a sign for them is that We carried their forefathers in a laden ship (36:41)

And We left it as a sign, so is there any who will remember?(54:15)

The water gushing from the undergrounds does not mean that the steam boat is impossible.

The boat made up of wooden planks and nails does not mean that it could not be a steamboat . On the contrary , a steam boat is also made up of wooden planks and nails.

The translation of word tannur is not only oven but furnace and kiln as well.See

Response to Talking Ants

These are the links which have the sounds of ants recorded.

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

Also check about the stridulation.

Response to Male and Female Fruits

Critic:

Without the slightest doubt, that is plain nonsense. There are no male and female apples, male and female strawberries, etc. Fruits do not have a gender; fruits do neither have intercourse nor do fruits give birth. They do not impregnate or fertilize each other. No matter how many pieces of fruit you put together in the same basket, and no matter how long you wait, they will not multiply. They will not give birth to little fruit children. With time, they will only spoil and get rotten. In its literal understanding, this statement of the Qur’an is not a scientific miracle, it is a total scientific failure.

Reply:

A pair of shoes does NOT mean that one is male and another is female.And if one is constantly thinking about it,it means that he has really a sick mentality.

And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o’er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider!(13:3) Yusuf Ali

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It is NOT mentioned in the verse that one is male,and another is female.It was the critics mentality that he interpreted the verse in the sense of “sexy fruits”

Critic:

Nevertheless, this claim is wrong for the majority of plants, and anyone interested to know more about this can read the Wikipedia entry on plant sexuality. In particular, many plants are hermaphrodite, having only bisexual reproductive units that contain both the male and the female part. There are no “pairs” for them; they exist in only one kind. To see just how wrong the Qur’an is in this case:

Hermaphroditism is very common in plants — about 70% of flowering plants are hermaphroditic, while only about 5% are dioecious and 7% are monoecious. About 7% of species exhibit gynodioecy or androdioecy, while 10% contain both unisexual and bisexual flowers. (Source)

Reply:

Thanks to the “intelligent” critic who has pointed out about the “hermaphorditism” in flowers.

Actually even a hermoaphordite has both sexual characteristics,that of male as well as female.

I am repeating it again,that there are 2 sexes even in a hermaphordite flower.

Monoecious plants also occur in PAIRS,and dioeceous planst already have both sexes in the same plant.

So even if the critic was confused about hermaphorditism in plants,the two sexes are not out of scene.

Critic:

Wikipedia provides quote a bit of information about the date palm. It is most likely that Muhammad knew that the date palm has separate male and female plants. Perhaps Muhammad simply extrapolated from the date palm to all plants, believing that all of them have this characteristic? Maybe his experience with the date palm is the reason that he claimed that every fruit comes in pairs?

Reply:

And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o’er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider!(13:3) Yusuf Ali

The verse mentions about fruits,NOT plants.

And yes,the fruits of ALL KINDS are in pairs,are of 2 types.

  • Dry and fleshy fruits
  • Aggregate and multiple fruits
  • Seedless fruits and fruits with seeds.
  • Ripe and unripe fruits

A pair is similar opposite,and for every type of fruit,there exists a similar opposite,even in that kind of fruit,as well as beyond that species.I have mentioned the examples of pairs.

Responses to “You be the Judge” , “He will make all new things” and “Surahs like it”

Could you ever accept some verses in Gujrati to be claimed just like Bible?

Not at all,neither do I.

Remember,the Quran is in Arabic.

Secondly,how many people changed their religions due to these verses?

Surat Al Jinn

Critic:These are fourteen and a half verses (1b-15) spoken by the jinns, exactly in Qur’anic language, after all, it is part of the Qur’an. Or can you see a difference between the Arabic in this sura and the other suras?

Response:

Actually the Surah is not something else than Quran,the Surah is revealed by Allah mentioning the speech of Jinn,the speech which is revealed by Allah in the Holy Quran. 

The critic has no idea about free indirect speech.

Free indirect speech is a style of third-person narration which uses some of the characteristics (dialogues) of third-person along with the essence of first-person direct speech.

Learn more.

Response to “The ‘Unsurpassable Eloquence’ of the Qur’an”

The point is simply that the Quran is beyond all the confines of Arabic grammar,in all respects.See